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Post by bubbabod on Sept 4, 2007 1:33:11 GMT -5
I might be mistaken, but I could have sworn that on a visit to San Jacinto several years ago they had one of the Bowie knives on display. I visited there in April, and it is no longer there. I asked a docent there, and while he didn't know about the knife, he said that every year or so they put some of the artifacts in storage and kind of rotate them around being shown. Maybe I'm wrong, but I thougt it was one of his knives.
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Post by bubbabod on Sept 4, 2007 2:08:03 GMT -5
Neferetus, great pictures. I was at the Alamo recently and saw the low barracks foundation, but didn't know about the lines you pointed out. Very interesting. I gotta go back!
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Post by bubbabod on Sept 4, 2007 1:43:39 GMT -5
Driving through west Texas as often as I have, I'm always surprised and wondering why, in one of these west Texas towns, there is a billboard to visit the Davy Crockett monument, wondering why there is a statue of Davy so far west of San Antonio, since he never, as far as I know, made it west of San Antonio.
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Post by bubbabod on Sept 21, 2007 1:28:51 GMT -5
Me, I'm listening to Il Divo, Josh Groban, Elvis, Toby Keith, the CD from Hope Floats. When I'm surfing the net and watching the Padres baseball games, their announcers suck big time, so I listen to my music I've got downloaded instead of listening to the two clowns who think they're professional sportscasters. Mine is an eclectic bunch of music, stretching from the 50's through today.
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Post by bubbabod on Sept 4, 2007 2:50:44 GMT -5
The question was asked sometime back how far the battleground at Coleto Creek is from Goliad and the mission. My recollection from having visited it a few months ago is it's about 12 miles. Not too far.
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Post by bubbabod on Sept 4, 2007 1:18:54 GMT -5
For me there'll never be one as good as John Wayne's 1960 version. Sure, a lot of inaccuracies, but it was John Wayne and Richard Widmark! I visited the site a few months ago, and here's a few pictures: The chapel, plaza and Crockett's palasade on right: The chapel, headquarters and long barracks: More of the same: For comparison, the real Alamo: And the long barracks:
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Post by bubbabod on Sept 6, 2007 11:25:22 GMT -5
I didn't see much about football, but having been out here in the San Diego area for most of my adult life, I'm a big Chargers fan. I've seen the worst and the best, and the best might be right now, this year. We should have gone 16-0 and gotten to the Super Bowl, but tha first playoff game, our receivers seemed to forget how to hold onto the ball, plus just a couple boneheaded decisions, like late hits, etc. Now, this year, the Chargers are still my team. But I'm reverting back to a Cowboys fan because a guy I played baseball with in high school is their new head coach, Wade Phillips. I was able to visit Wade a few times the last four years and was sorry to see him leave, but, man, could there be a better head coaching job for a Texas boy than the Dallas Cowboys? I think not.
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Post by bubbabod on Nov 28, 2007 11:32:18 GMT -5
Davy, where is this and what exactly is it?
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Post by bubbabod on Sept 24, 2007 22:00:37 GMT -5
Nef and Cole, are there ever any reenactments for the Alamo? Anywhere? That's something I'd love to see. I was going to go see the one at San Jacinto this year, but couldn't make it.
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Post by bubbabod on Sept 10, 2007 16:10:16 GMT -5
This kind of reminds me of whether it's really Custer's remains that are buried at West Point. The remains at the Little Big Horn were so hastily buried and then dug up for reburial, they're not even sure it was Custer's remains.
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Post by bubbabod on Sept 8, 2007 12:10:03 GMT -5
I thought they also had thrown some bodies in the San Antonio river or was this just their own casualties? Crazyhorse, That's a heck of a way to treat your own dead, isn't it? Well, Santa Anna wasn't known for having a soft heart.
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Post by bubbabod on Sept 8, 2007 1:55:58 GMT -5
There was talk on another thread here about just where the pyre was where the bodies were burned. I had always thought it was at the location of the cenotaph. Here's a quote from a web site I found: "Some believe that the monument is built where many of the Alamo defenders were put to death after the fall. Others believe the corpses of the dead defenders were piled here and unceremoniously burned. Now, the more I surf around here, I came upon someone's web site with numerous Alamo-related pictures, which I'll post. Here is the marker on Commerce Street: good-times.webshots.com/photo/2483218450066237676yjshPMHere is the website where the picture came from. It's got lot of good pictures: good-times.webshots.com/album/556365479xnHpqZ?start=0My thanks to whoever's web site this it.
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Post by bubbabod on Sept 8, 2007 1:27:16 GMT -5
Okay, while looking in one of my Alamo books, I think I've answered my own question. In the Osprey Publishing's "The Alamo 1836, Santa Anna's Texas Campaign, on page 52 there is a picture of a cryuptl, looks like marble maybe that is inscribed, "Here lie the remains of Travis, Crockett and Bowie." The caption for the picture says:
"Alamo courier Juan Seguin located the site of the funeral pyres and claimed to have collected the remains of the defenders in an urn that he buried in the corner of the San Fernando church. "During the 1936 restoration of the church, workers uncovered charred bones and bits of cloth. Subsequently, churc officials placed them in this crypt. "Nevertheless, many scholars doubt that the remains are actually those of the Alamo's defenders."
But I guess my question remains: does anyone know if this story is true? Seems plausible. NOt that they were truly the bones of the three mentioned, but seems plausible they are the bones of defenders if, in fact, Seguin collected some remains and did whast he said he did.
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Post by bubbabod on Sept 8, 2007 0:57:27 GMT -5
A friend of mine posted the following quote on another Alamo forum:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "The remains of those who died in the Alamo were burned by order of General Santa Anna, and the few fragments I ordered deposited in an urn. I ordered a sepulcher opened in San Antonio's cathedral next to the alter, that is, in front of the the railings but very near the steps."
I was wondering if anyone else has ever seen this in one of your books, and if so, who made the statement, and is the story true? Thanks.
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Post by bubbabod on Sept 8, 2007 1:58:53 GMT -5
For some cool pictures, including one marble marker marking where the pyre was, check out the subject of "Ashes and bones." Great pictures. The guy who took them found many markers I never even knew existed or had never found them or seen tham.
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Post by bubbabod on Sept 8, 2007 1:17:08 GMT -5
By the funeral pyres, I assume you're talking about where they burned the defenders' remains? I'd never heard that the site was where the La Quinta now stands. Isn't that quite a distance to transport all those bodies to burn them? I had always thought the burned them where the monument with all their names now stands. No?
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Post by bubbabod on Sept 5, 2007 11:28:41 GMT -5
RebAl, beautiful place you live. Never been to England. Some day, though. Here's a couple of pictures of where I live: This is the flower fields of Carlsbad, Ca. Around nine million ranuncula bulbs are planted each year, and bloom in March and April. The fields are on a sloping hillside that runs about a mile from north to south and two hundred yards from east to west, overlooking the Pacific Ocean. This is about half a mile from my house: View of the San Diego harbor and skyline: USS Midway museum in San Diego harbor: "The Kiss" sculpture next to the USS Midway, San Diego Harbor Beaches at Carlsbad, Ca. USS Midway, looking across harbor to USS Nimitz: Another view of the Carlsbad Flower Fields and power plant: Carlsbad is a beach town of about 90,000 30 miles up the coast from downtown San Diego. Yeah, it's crowded here, but we have the best weather in the world and so much to do and see. My parents came to visit us many years ago, and in one day we took them for a ride, beginning at the beach, drove them to see the flowers in the Anzo-Borrego desert, up to the snow of Palomar Mountain and back down to the beach, all in one day, and never left San Diego county.
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Post by bubbabod on Sept 5, 2007 11:53:03 GMT -5
Cool pictures, Reb. I really like the purple rainbow over the river. Is that an arc that's lit up or what?
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Post by bubbabod on Sept 5, 2007 11:50:28 GMT -5
Really cool, Nef. Looks like you had a great trip. I've always been envious of friends who had the chance to travel the world in their younger days. My only worldwide traveling when I was young was courtesy of the US Navy in the mid 1960's. My wife and I finally made it to Europe in 1998, visiting Italy and Austria and had a great time. I could spend a week in Rome alone visiting all the historic sites in and around Rome. Thanks for the pictures.
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Post by bubbabod on Sept 5, 2007 15:20:22 GMT -5
Hi, Rick. I was there the first week of June of this year and it was outstanding. I've never seen the whole area so green and lush. Then again, I've been there on the anniversary of the battle, June 25th, and it's already burned out looking somewhat. I've never been there in the fall, but I've heard it's a great time to go because the weather is turning. I don't think you'd have to worry about snow in September, but I can't say for sure. As for following Custer's route, I've done it twice, but both times with private tours led by Dr. Richard Fox, the archeologist who led the digs after the fires of 1985 I think it was. Rich has a family home near the Rosebud Creek about ten miles from Custer's last camp in Busby, Mt. To follow his trail from Busby to the LBH take the permission from several landowners, and it's hard to do without knowing who to talk to or by taking a tour. I can give you some leads on who to approach for tours. Me? I'd go in the late spring, early summer, like late May, simply because it's so pretty. I'd love to go in the fall just because the tourists have gone home. I'll get back to you if you'd like more info. Frank
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