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Post by neferetus on Nov 13, 2007 15:08:01 GMT -5
Here is artist Henry McArdle's list of Mexican officers who were
killed at the battle of San Jacinto. (From the Henry McArdle Notebook.)
~PAGE I~
List of Mexican Officers Killed on the 21st of April
1836, at the battle of San Jacinto
Rank
Name
General
Don Manuel Castillon
“A”
Lt Arenal
Colonel
Near wood
Don Jose Batres
“B”
[ditto]
Don Antonio Trevino
“E”
[ditto]
Praying
Don Augustin Peralta
“S”
[ditto]
First flag
Don Jose Arenas
“n”
Col Iberri
[ditto]
Killed by Smith
Rallying his men (?)
Don Esteban Mora
“D”
Lt Col
Ral on horseback
Don Maricial Aquinne
“R”
[ditto] [ditto]
Pointing to Smith & c
Don Mancial Cos
“M”
[ditto] [ditto]
Fallen with horse
background
Don Santiago Luelino
“H”
[ditto] [ditto]
Don Carile Larumbo
[ditto] [ditto]
Don Manuel Valdez
“C”
[ditto] [ditto]
“ Mariario Hazaran
[ditto] [ditto]
“ Francisco Aguado
“F”
[ditto] [ditto]
Trumpeter
(va lath-Kath)
“ Miguel Velasquez
G
Capt
“ Nestor Guzman
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Post by neferetus on Nov 13, 2007 15:09:32 GMT -5
~PAGE II~
Killed Mexicans
cont'd
Capt
Don Benito Rodriguez
[ditto]
“ Ygnacio Berra
T
[ditto]
“ Raymon Herrero
[ditto]
“ Alonzo Yanzales
[ditto]
“ Antonio Frias
[ditto]
“ Juan Manjarra
Lieut
“ Jose Ma Puelles
[ditto]
“ Luis Valeijo
[ditto]
“ Trinidad Santiesteban
[ditto]
“ Juan Santa Cruz
[ditto]
“ Pedro Gonzales
(1)
[ditto]
(with distant flag)
“ Antonio Castro
[ditto]
“ Jose Sanza
[ditto]
“ Ygnacio Brasail
(1) We understand that this individual is still in
existence (Sept 6th '36) at La Bahia, as a prisoner of War
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Post by neferetus on Nov 13, 2007 15:10:51 GMT -5
~PAGE III~
Killed Mexicans ______ [?]
cont'd
Lt
Don Antonio Navarro
J (2)
“
“ Francisco Molina
Sub Lts
“ Joaquin Peratta
[ditto]
“ Basiliso Eskino
[ditto]
“ Juan Mansano
[ditto]
“ Jose Maria Tornell (Tornices?)
(1)
[ditto]
“ Victoriano Martinez
[ditto]
“ Secundino Rosas
Total 38
The names of several Sergeants with brevet
rank of officers are omitted not being
known
(1) Tornell (?) If this be Tornell, which one? One man of
that name prominent in history, did not die
until 1853; his name was Jose Maria.
(2) Not Jose Antonio Navarro, Mexican patriot and
friend of Texas, who did not die until 1870
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Post by seguin on Nov 15, 2007 17:31:58 GMT -5
The only one I´ve heard of on the list is general Castrillon...
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Post by neferetus on Nov 15, 2007 17:45:05 GMT -5
The only one I´ve heard of on the list is general Castrillon... Well, you see Batres get killed in Peggy Lake, in the new Alamo film. He's a floater. |
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Post by Greg C. on Nov 15, 2007 17:49:54 GMT -5
The only one I´ve heard of on the list is general Castrillon... Well, you see Batres get killed in Peggy Lake, in the new Alamo film. He's a floater. That's the officer that gets killed and floats with his eyes open with blood flowing into the water at the very end of the film? |
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Post by neferetus on Nov 15, 2007 17:53:27 GMT -5
Yep. You may also remember him in the staff officer scene as the officer who grins when Santa Anna suggests that his soldiers are so many chickens.
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Post by seguin on Nov 15, 2007 17:55:33 GMT -5
Ah! Then I remember him! Was he the floater who was filmed from beneath the water?
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Post by neferetus on Nov 15, 2007 18:03:51 GMT -5
Ah! Then I remember him! Was he the floater who was filmed from beneath the water? Yep. They actually did that shot in a clearwater tank. The swamp they used for Peggy Lake smelled like a sewer. I felt sorry for those Mexican extras who actually had to wallow in that muck. One of them was kicked by a horse while under water and suffered irreparable damage. He used to post about his medical woes over on thealamofilm site. |
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Post by seguin on Nov 15, 2007 18:11:59 GMT -5
Ah! Then I remember him! Was he the floater who was filmed from beneath the water? Yep. They actually did that shot in a clearwater tank. The swamp they used for Peggy Lake smelled like a sewer. I felt sorry for those Mexican extras who actually had to wallow in that muck. One of them was kicked by a horse while under water and suffered irreparable damage. He used to post about his medical woes over on thealamofilm site. Irreparable damage? Poor guy! I hope he had adequate insurance, not that it would help his health any... |
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Post by neferetus on Nov 15, 2007 19:50:43 GMT -5
I think the part about the insurance is "no" and the poor guy is pretty much crippled.
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Post by Greg C. on Nov 15, 2007 19:59:32 GMT -5
I think the part about the insurance is "no" and the poor guy is pretty much crippled. Damn!   |
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Post by neferetus on Nov 15, 2007 20:09:27 GMT -5
Worse, when you sign on as a reenactor in a movie, you also sign a waiver to the effect that the production company is not responsible for any death, or injury on the set. In other words, you're on your own.
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Post by seguin on Nov 15, 2007 21:12:26 GMT -5
Worse, when you sign on as a reenactor in a movie, you also sign a waiver to the effect that the production company is not responsible for any death, or injury on the set. In other words, you're on your own. Incredible! I would have thought that they had everybody insured. It´s unbelieveable that they can get away with it. And the pay is´nt that good either. The reenactors should form a strong union! |
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Post by neferetus on Nov 15, 2007 21:30:03 GMT -5
The reenactors do it for the love of it and take their chances. Some just go from movie to movie, living in tents on the set for the duration.
But you're right. The pay wasn't great.
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Post by neferetus on Nov 15, 2007 21:34:08 GMT -5
Here's the post from over on thealamofilm site of the guy who got hurt at Peggy Lake, dated November 2nd, 2004:
Out at Peggy Lake there were injuries everyday; minor cuts, bruises, and a few Bastrop scorpion bites. Was the dust an injury?
I ran into another extra the other day and he gave me a hard time for still being on the "injured" list. He had no idea what had actually happened to me, what I've lost, and what I'll have to deal with for the rest of my life.
I was fighting a Mexican soldier at Peggy Lake when I was injured. He and I were standing in waist-deep water in "battle". While we in "take", the soldier started yelling at me that a horse was running up the back of us. There was no time to move out of the way. Because I was supporing the soldier's weight, it was up to me to get us both out of the way before the horse crashed into us.
If I had dropped the solider, since he wasn't supporting his own weight, he would have sank to the bottom. And, since the horse stepped on my foot, it quite obviously the horse would have stepped on the soldier too.
I had hold of the soldier's breast strap for the scene, so pulled up on he strap and began running out of the way. I turned to see how close the horse was. He was RIGHT THERE! He stepped on my foot while I was twisted looking back at him.
My foot wasn't hurt. Being stopped suddenly, while twisted looking for the run-away horse, ruptured three of my lower disc.
I recently had surgery to remove the broken bone fragments, in hopes this would relieve some of the pain.
With the limitations of worker's comp, the doctor doesn't have any advice or hope to share. Since I was injured, I been in pain 24-hrs a day, am able to sleep only 3-4 hours a night because of the pain and medicine and have lost everything related to my life-time work.
I had 20-yrs experience as a contractor, I've lost all my customers, and all the doctors and other health professionals have told me there's no way I can go back to doing what I did. I can't even be a background extra anymore!
Most of what I considered fun before is still on the "can't do" list from now on.
I wish there was someone who could offer some advise. I'm not even getting paid on a scale that matches background pay. The worker's comp insurance hasn't meet their responsibility.
For the rest of my life I will now have chronic back pain and that leaves me with the question of how to make a living now, but who realy gives a damn?
Rick "Lexington"
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Post by seguin on Nov 15, 2007 21:58:34 GMT -5
Jezuz! Poor guy! Cronic back pains is no laughing matter! To me it seems like Hollywood takes advantage of the fact that reenactors love what they do. They know that accidents will occur regularly and still they won´t provide health insurance. Not even a good pay. Well, with the mega-salaries they pay the big movie stars nowadays, I guess they have to cut back somewhere...  |
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Post by neferetus on Nov 16, 2007 11:27:38 GMT -5
Again, it's a lifestyle, this reenacting. Not everyone can understand it. As to the movie aspect of the profession, the production companies are not averse to working those guys 18 hours a day, if there's a shooting schedule to keep. (And they know that they can get the work out of them, as there's no reenactor union.)
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