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Post by Greg C. on Apr 13, 2005 16:36:16 GMT -5
do think it is the worst alamo movie ever made? i think it is. bad acting, bad shots, combined with travis getting killed 3 times on top of the well made for a terrible movie. but we have to watch it anyway just becuase it is a mo movie.
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Post by Bromhead24 on Apr 13, 2005 18:03:39 GMT -5
do think it is the worst alamo movie ever made? i think it is. bad acting, bad shots, combined with travis getting killed 3 times on top of the well made for a terrible movie. but we have to watch it anyway just becuase it is a mo movie. Same here. Since i've been there a zillion times, it makes the movie a little more watchable..  |
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Post by TexasMac on May 12, 2005 17:17:29 GMT -5
do think it is the worst alamo movie ever made? i think it is. bad acting, bad shots, combined with travis getting killed 3 times on top of the well made for a terrible movie. but we have to watch it anyway just becuase it is a mo movie. The worst movie or the worst Alamo movie? The worst movie ever made was Plan 9 From Outerspace. |
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Post by Greg C. on May 12, 2005 17:35:01 GMT -5
it would have been better if bela lugosi didnt die.
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Post by TexasMacatWork on May 17, 2005 9:22:06 GMT -5
it would have been better if bela lugosi didnt die. Not by much, IMHO. |
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Post by Bromhead24 on Jun 24, 2005 22:35:35 GMT -5
The worst movie ever made was Plan 9 From Outerspace.
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Yes, but it is so bad it's good if you know what i mean.
It's hard to believe that Ed Wood actually thought that he was making a real scary movie.
I really liked the Air liner cockpit set using cardboard yokes and a shower curtain....Classic..
Mike
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Post by neferetus on Jul 18, 2005 14:52:44 GMT -5
The WORST Alamo movie yet made has got to be Jame Michener's Texas.That being said, the much villified "13 Days To Glory" does have it's moments. Everyone's always ripping on Brian Keith's Crockett, I think mainly due to the way that they have him costumed. Had Stocton Briggle at least attempted to make Keith look a little more like Crockett, he would've likely suffered a few less slings and arrows. I, for one like the way Keith's Crockett tells a yarn. And I'm a Brian Keith fan, anyway...  |
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Post by Greg C. on Jul 18, 2005 18:10:58 GMT -5
i thought he was ok except for the hat
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Post by Bromhead24 on Jul 18, 2005 18:44:03 GMT -5
Besides the whole battle taking place along the "South" wall, The end credits said that 1544 Mexican soldados killed during the final assault...that means a 106% casualty count...go figure....  |
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Post by neferetus on Jul 19, 2005 18:10:21 GMT -5
Besides the whole battle taking place along the "South" wall, The end credits said that 1544 Mexican soldados killed during the final assault...that means a 106% casualty count...go figure.... That casualty figure was the same one in Lon Tinkle's "13 Days To Glory", which the film was supposed to have been based on. The placing of Danny Cloud in the bell tower of the San Fernando church was also pure invention on Lon Tinkle's part. In Tinkle's book, there are 2,500 front line effectives against the Alamo garrison of 182. Still, 1,544 (Ramo Caro's estimate) is a rather stiff price to pay. Walter Lord's estimate of the strength of the assault force still seems to hold up well, to whit: 1,100 infantry, 300 reserves and 400 cavalry, for a sum total of 1,800. Reuben Potter's account has 2,500 troops assaulting the Alamo with 500 casualties, against 182 Texans dead.  |
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Post by texianatheart2 on Jun 28, 2006 19:35:45 GMT -5
Maybe the producers of 13 Days To Glory should've got Bela Lugosi for a part. Sure, they'd have to raise him from the dead but, he was no more dead than this movie.
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Post by Greg C. on Jun 28, 2006 21:02:00 GMT -5
welcome back th2!
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Post by neferetus on Jul 15, 2006 14:42:24 GMT -5
I guess that EVERY Alamo movie ever made has something good to be said about it. While Raul Julia's brilliant portrayal of Santa Anna helps save 13 Days from being the worst Alamo film ever made, there are other things that keep it from being catergorized as such. For one thing, the Waynamo set was refurbished to look more like the Waynamo than it had ever looked since Wayne wrapped production in December, 1959. Also, the genuine friendship between Jim Bowie and Juan Seguin is shown in 13 Days and not in any other Alamo-related film. In the newest Alamo film (2004) Seguin knows and fights along side Bowie only because, according to the script writers, he is the lesser of the two evils. In 13 Days, Bowie and Seguin are practically family.
What other good things can you say about 13 Days? They are there, if you just take the time to find them...
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Post by Greg C. on Jul 15, 2006 17:51:19 GMT -5
here are a few:
-the scene at night where they plug up the cannons
-brian keith's story telling at night
-friendship between seguin and bowie
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Post by neferetus on Jul 16, 2006 9:44:25 GMT -5
At the beginning of 13 Days, when Joe and Travis are standing over the main gate watching a fireworks display in honor of George Washington's Birthday, the camera does a wonderful pan of the entire Alamo compound by moonlight.
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Post by Bromhead24 on Jul 16, 2006 10:14:15 GMT -5
How about the the "hair trigger Brown Bess"
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Post by neferetus on Aug 6, 2006 13:46:36 GMT -5
How about the the "hair trigger Brown Bess" Yes, Gregorio Esparza's reaction to that is priceless! |
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Post by neferetus on May 31, 2007 13:29:55 GMT -5
To me, the most absurd scene in 13 Days To Glory is the 'crawl for cannon' scene, where the defenders do just that, inching their way across wide open prairie. The soldados near the cannon battery are watching a senorita do a sultry, if limited in moves, dance routine for the troops who are so entranced with their backs to the approaching crawlers that they do not even see them plugging the cannons with mud.
The next morning, the artillerymen prepare to fire the cannon at the Alamo. The sight of dead bodies around the cannon apparently does not tip them off that something is clearly amiss. All of the cannon are fired and 'mysteriously' explode, even though some of them still have the plungers protruding from the bores!
Director Burt Kennedy clearly was attemting to pay a tribute to John Wayne with this failed scene, but should have, in retrospoect, just left well enough alone.
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Post by Greg C. on May 31, 2007 13:53:59 GMT -5
To me, the most absurd scene in 13 Days To Glory is the 'crawl for cannon' scene, where the defenders do just that, inching their way across wide open prairie. The soldados near the cannon battery are watching a senorita do a sultry, if limited in moves, dance routine for the troops who are so entranced with their backs to the approaching crawlers that they do not even see them plugging the cannons with mud. The next morning, the artillerymen prepare to fire the cannon at the Alamo. The sight of dead bodies around the cannon apparently does not tip them off that something is clearly amiss. All of the cannon are fired and 'mysteriously' explode, even though some of them still have the plungers protruding from the bores! Director Burt Kennedy clearly was attemting to pay a tribute to John Wayne with this failed scene, but should have, in retrospoect, just left well enough alone. Didn't they also rub mud on their faces as camoflauge? That wouldn't have done much. Just another bad scene from a bad movie. Almost as bad as Travis firing his single shot pistol fifty times on the well and stabbing the same soldado. |
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Post by neferetus on Jun 27, 2007 13:11:08 GMT -5
The night attack (first assault) actually looks pretty good, with those lines of soldados charging in from out of the darkness. But then, the cameraman does not cut away quick enough, leaving the viewer to realize that the Mexican army consists of but 40, or so extras.
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