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Post by neferetus on Jan 4, 2006 19:31:13 GMT -5
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Post by Bromhead24 on Jan 4, 2006 21:04:34 GMT -5
Canister or volley fire....
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Post by neferetus on Jan 8, 2006 4:53:03 GMT -5
Mexican casualties at the Alamo, as reported in dispatches by General Juan Jose Andrade and later used by General Vicente Filisola in his book, were 8 officers killed and 18 wounded and of the rank and file, 52 killed and 233 wounded, for a total of 311 casualties.
Colonel Juan Almonte gives the Mexican loss at 65 killed and 233 wounded, while placing the Texian dead at 250.
Lt. Col. Sanchez Navarro on the other hand, reported 11 officers dead and 19 wounded and of the rank and file, 110 dead and247 wounded, for a total of 387 casualties. Texian dead: 257
In his memoir, Jose Pena merely states that "we lost more than 300 brave men." Pena's memoir also reports the loss of 3 dead and 6 wounded during the course of the siege. Pena gives the Texian dead as 253.
Santa Anna's own secretary, Ramon Martinez Caro states in his memoirs that "we shall always deplore the costly sacrifice of the 400 who fell in the attack. 300 were left dead on the field and more than a 100 of the wounded died afterwards as result of the lack of proper medical attention and medical facilities in spite of the fact that their injuries were not serious." Caro states the Texian loss as 183 killed.
Dr. Joseph H. Barnard, a Texian surgeon at La Bahia who was spared death to tend to the Mexican wounded in San Antonio, stated in his April 21, 1836 Journal entry:
"Yesterday and today we have been around with the surgeons of the place to visit the wounded, and a pretty piece of work 'Travis and his faithful few' have made of them. There are now about 100 here of the wounded. The surgeon tells us that there were 500 brought into the hospital the morning they stormed the Alamo, but I should think from appearances there must have been more. I see many around town who were crippled, --apparently two or 300,--and the citizens tell me that three or four hundred have died of their wounds..."
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Post by Bromhead24 on Jan 9, 2006 12:03:41 GMT -5
Like the late Walter Lord said...19 different sources gives 19 different casualty figures.
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Post by neferetus on Jan 30, 2006 11:54:26 GMT -5
Like the late Walter Lord said...19 different sources gives 19 different casualty figures. I initially ommitted a few sources as being unreliable. Susanna Dickinson claimed there were 1,600 Mexicans killed outright and that there were still 8,000 troops in San Antonio after the Alamo had fallen. Francisco Ruiz stated that "we brought to San Antonio more than 6,000 troops and lost 1,544 of the best of them..." Santa Anna's cook, Ben, put the losses as 1,200. Then,of course, there is Srgnt. Becerra's ludicrous 2,000 killed and 300 wounded---practically all the troops Santa Anna had on hand in Bejar on March 6, including the raw recruits. Topping even Becerra is San Antonian Pablo Diaz who allowed that Santa Anna lost 6,000 of his 10,000 troops. Finally, coming back down to earth... Captain Reuben M. Potter U.S.A., in his 1860 pamphlet, claimed a total loss of 500, out of 2,500 assault troops. Potter was a resident of Matamoros at the time the Alamo fell and so had the opportunity to document firsthand accounts of the retreating Mexican army, after San Jacinto. |
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Post by Bromhead24 on Jan 30, 2006 14:04:58 GMT -5
Like the late Walter Lord said...19 different sources gives 19 different casualty figures. . Francisco Ruiz stated that "we brought to San Antonio more than 6,000 troops and lost 1,544 of the best of them..." . Thats the same figure given in the last few seconds of "13 Days to glory" |
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Post by Bromhead24 on Jan 30, 2006 14:08:14 GMT -5
"Captain Reuben M. Potter U.S.A., in his 1860 pamphlet, claimed a total loss of 500, out of 2,500 assault troops. Potter was a resident of Matamoros at the time the Alamo fell and so had the opportunity to document firsthand accounts of the retreating Mexican army, after San Jacinto." I agree with that statement except the 2,500 assault figure and again like the late Walter Lord said, "No Texan should feel cheated" or something along that line..  |
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Post by Bromhead24 on Jan 30, 2006 14:11:47 GMT -5
Like the late Walter Lord said...19 different sources gives 19 different casualty figures. That didn't sound right, i didn't mean to criticize..  I'm not too good in "communication skills" i guess |
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Post by Greg C. on Jan 30, 2006 18:04:55 GMT -5
i have always believed that the casualty number was atleast 600.
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Post by Bromhead24 on Feb 5, 2006 15:13:30 GMT -5
500 to 600 sounds fair (200 killed and 400 wounded)
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Post by alamoal on Feb 26, 2007 17:19:33 GMT -5
My question is this, how many casualties suffered during the WHOLE campaign, including the march to the Alamo from Mexico to San Jacinto AND Goliad. It seems to be numbers in the thousands. 600 alone at San Jacinto.
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Post by neferetus on Feb 26, 2007 18:15:37 GMT -5
Mexican Sources
MEXICAN LOSSES
Gonzales: 1
Concepcion 87
Grass Fight 52
Siege of Bejar: 150
The Alamo: 311
San Patricio: 5
Refugio: 38
Coleto Creek: 65
San Jacinto: 650
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1359 TOTAL Killed & Wounded
TEXIAN LOSSES
Gonzales 0
Concepcion: 1
Grass Fight: 0
Siege of Bejar: 15
The Alamo: 257
San Patricio: 52
Refugio: 57 (Including 30 executed)
Coleto Creek:124
Goliad: 333 (Executed)
San Jacinto: 43
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882 TOTAL Killed & Wounded
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Post by neferetus on Oct 21, 2007 19:19:06 GMT -5
Tom Lindley's carefully reasoned out casualty figure for the Mexican army for the entire siege of the Alamo comes to 518. Read his ALAMO TRACES, then draw your own conclusion.
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Post by neferetus on Nov 20, 2007 23:32:08 GMT -5
Walter Lord's ground-breaking 1961 book A TIME TO STAND seems to be the source for everyone who gauges 600 total casualties. But while Lord claimed that he was quoting Captain Reuben M. Potter, Potter himself only mentioned 500 casualties altogether in his 1861 pamphlet.
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Post by seguin on Nov 20, 2007 23:50:45 GMT -5
So 500 becomes 600. That reminds me of casualties mentioned by Susannah Dickinson, which also may have been written down incorrectly by the journalist...
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