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Post by Cole_blooded on Sept 22, 2007 22:49:33 GMT -5
I asked Bruce Winders the provenance of the Crockett hair locket and here is his response! : Hi Ted, It was a gift from a lady in Waco, Texas, who offered it to the Alamo in 1967. It was accepted in 1968, the year of Hemisfair '68. The file contains no reference to its history or why it is believed to be a lock of Crockett's hair. I would think this had to have been discussed prior to the donation but nobody evidently thought to write it down and put it in the accession file. No DNA work has ever been performed on lock of hair although it would be interesting to see the results. Unfortunately it falls to the viewer to either choose to believe that it is a lock of Crockett's hair or it isn't. Dr. Bruce Winders  |
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Post by seguin on Sept 22, 2007 22:59:31 GMT -5
Unfortunately it falls to the viewer to either choose to believe that it is a lock of Crockett's hair or it isn't. As it does with Travis´ring...  |
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Post by neferetus on Mar 1, 2008 19:23:46 GMT -5
 Here is the lock of Crockett's hair in question. |
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Post by alamojobe on Mar 5, 2008 16:49:27 GMT -5
Will we ever find out the truth?
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Post by neferetus on Mar 14, 2008 14:46:31 GMT -5
Will we ever find out the truth? Well, DNA testing could be done on the hair. There are, after all, a few direct Crockett descendants in Texas alone.  A BRACE OF CROCKETTS Caroline Cotton Crockett, Jerry Laing and Sandra Crockett Giddings at Casa Rio, Sunday, March 9, 2008. |
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Post by Greg C. on Mar 14, 2008 14:59:37 GMT -5
Then get those DNA tests done!
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Post by Cole_blooded on Mar 14, 2008 21:30:29 GMT -5
That would be nice and then the books would be closed as to its authenticity, "Is it real or Memorex"? ;D TED COLE....aka....Cole_blooded |
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Post by Greg C. on Mar 14, 2008 21:49:59 GMT -5
Then again, maybe it's better not knowing because if it's real, it won't be special anymore.
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Post by marvelous35 on Mar 25, 2008 1:15:31 GMT -5
I do not understand why a DNA test would not be wanted by the Daughters of Liberty and the decendants. I am sure you would have a few private donors who would even be willing to pay for the test.
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Post by Greg C. on Mar 25, 2008 8:57:02 GMT -5
I do not understand why a DNA test would not be wanted by the Daughters of Liberty and the decendants. I am sure you would have a few private donors who would even be willing to pay for the test. But if the test were to come out proving that it is not Crockett's hair, the item would be worthless. |
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Post by neferetus on Mar 25, 2008 9:56:10 GMT -5
I think it's worth taking the chance. From a purely romantic point of view, we would all want it to be Crockett's hair. From a scientific, or serious researcher's point of view though, it's probably better to know.
For instance, I don't want to believe that some 60 Texians went over the wall during the final assault, but if a roster of their names should ever surface, wouldn't you want to know who these mystery defenders were?
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Post by Greg C. on Mar 25, 2008 9:58:14 GMT -5
Why wouldn't you want to believe that 60 Texians went over the wall, Nef?
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Post by neferetus on Mar 25, 2008 10:51:33 GMT -5
Why wouldn't you want to believe that 60 Texians went over the wall, Nef? Because then I'd also have to also believe that there were over 250 defenders, instead of the currently believed less than 200. Show me the names of these additioinal 60, or so men and I will be more inclined to accept the story. Alcalde Francisco Ruiz asserts that there were 182 Texian bodies burned on the funeral pyres. Some people have argued that Ruiz was only counting the bodies that were found inside the Alamo. But, as Jack Edmondson points out in THE ALAMO STORY, that is not what Ruiz said. |
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Post by Greg C. on Mar 25, 2008 10:56:09 GMT -5
I think the realistic number of defenders was somewhere around 250...
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Post by neferetus on Mar 25, 2008 11:34:26 GMT -5
I think the realistic number of defenders was somewhere around 250... Why? Travis himself mentions far less than that in his official dispatches and letters.( On February 23, in a letter to James Fannin, Travis and Bowie state that they have 146 men. As late as March 3, Travis was claiming in a letter to his friend Jesse Grimes that he had only 140 men under his command.) Do you suppose that he was merely guessing? |
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Post by Cole_blooded on Mar 25, 2008 13:17:51 GMT -5
32 men from Gonzalez! Concerning Crockett`s hair locket here again is what Bruce Winders had to say regarding that: I asked Bruce Winders the provenance of the Crockett hair locket and here is his response! : Hi Ted, It was a gift from a lady in Waco, Texas, who offered it to the Alamo in 1967. It was accepted in 1968, the year of Hemisfair '68. The file contains no reference to its history or why it is believed to be a lock of Crockett's hair. I would think this had to have been discussed prior to the donation but nobody evidently thought to write it down and put it in the accession file. No DNA work has ever been performed on lock of hair although it would be interesting to see the results. Unfortunately it falls to the viewer to either choose to believe that it is a lock of Crockett's hair or it isn't. Dr. Bruce Winders  TED COLE....aka....Cole_blooded |
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Post by r sullivan on Apr 30, 2015 12:49:35 GMT -5
I have a lock of crockett's hair with a letter from r.e.b. baylor and another letter from sarah wilson, daughter of rev james weston miller.
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