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Post by seguin on Apr 6, 2008 19:36:16 GMT -5
My mistake! Now I see we´re on top of the church! First I thought the last pic was a ground level shot of a false church top. I need glasses...
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Post by Greg C. on Apr 6, 2008 19:48:42 GMT -5
And particular reason for the cross being bent? I always thought it looked better that way anyways but wanted to know if there was a special reason...
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Post by neferetus on Apr 6, 2008 23:43:21 GMT -5
And particular reason for the cross being bent? I always thought it looked better that way anyways but wanted to know if there was a special reason... Good question. Originally Al Ybarra had put up a plain, white cross on the hump. When Wayne saw it however he said, "Take that down. Give me something allegorical." So Ybarra came up with the over-sized fallen cross, symbolizing perhaps the mission's fall from use as a place of worship.
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Post by Greg C. on Apr 7, 2008 14:05:25 GMT -5
Thanks Nef. I always figured the cross was bent for a reason...
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Post by neferetus on Apr 9, 2008 0:34:51 GMT -5
Richard Widmark, as Jim Bowie with the Nock Volley gun. ( Courtesy of Craig Covner)
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Post by neferetus on Apr 9, 2008 0:43:28 GMT -5
Joe Musso, in the Jim Bowie room in Alamo village with the rubber Iron Mistress knife that Widmark used in his death scene. Standing on the shelf is a replica of Bowie's Nock Volley gun. (From the John Sizmur collection, March, 2008)
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Post by neferetus on Apr 9, 2008 0:46:00 GMT -5
Closeup of the Nock Volley gun and rubber Iron Mistress.
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Post by Greg C. on Apr 9, 2008 13:51:27 GMT -5
What year was the NockVolley gun invented? if anyone knows...
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Post by neferetus on Apr 9, 2008 17:15:08 GMT -5
Bill Chemerka answered that question over on thealamofilm site... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Issue #51 (July 1986) of The Alamo Journal featured an article titled "The Nock Volley Gun," which described the history of the gun Widmark used in John Wayne's film and the historical weapon it was based on. Henry Nock, along with other 18th century English gunsmith's---notably James Wilson---created a seven-barreled flintlock weapon. Wilson's volley gun, which was approved by the Board of Ordnance in July 1779, fired "seven balls at one time, and that they may be used with great advantage in the tops of ships." But Nock was issued the large contract (several hundred Nock Volley Guns were made in the 1780's). Widmark's weapon? According to Joe Musso in The Alamo Journal article: "John Wayne's Batjac company leased the original first model volley gun from Stembridge Gun Rentals for use in The Alamo. In addition, a totally fake volley gun was rigged up that would fire electronically, rather than risk firing black powder in the original." The black, electrical-taped wire is quite visible on the "rigged" weapon when Widmark fires a volley from the wall. "Gollee, what a gun..." For more info on this topic or other documented Alamo articles of the last 20+ years see www.thealamosociety.com
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Post by neferetus on Apr 9, 2008 17:21:12 GMT -5
Oops! The comic say 'six-barreled', not 7.
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Post by seguin on Apr 19, 2008 23:16:57 GMT -5
And comics are never wrong! Goleee, what a volley...
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Post by Greg C. on Apr 20, 2008 8:37:03 GMT -5
What'll it take for this thread to be a hundred pages long like the on on AlamoFilm?
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Post by Bromhead24 on Apr 20, 2008 11:05:46 GMT -5
And maybe Mo will be able to login by then.
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Post by Greg C. on Apr 20, 2008 14:06:43 GMT -5
And maybe Mo will be able to login by then. He has an account here, but he told me a while ago he's always had problems logging on.
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Post by neferetus on Mar 1, 2022 8:15:51 GMT -5
Anyone remember this scene in the film? Attachments:
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