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Post by Greg C. on Jan 7, 2007 13:44:16 GMT -5
My favorite of would have to be Gettysburg. Since it was filmed as a miniseries, they had time to get their point across. It was fast paced, exciting, showed the horrors of war, and allowed for some great acting (it was also filmed on the gettysburg battlefield.). Birth of a nation was too racy and had to much to do with the KKK although that is what D.W Griffith was trying to show. Shenandoah was good but it focused too much on one family and not enough on the overall war. The north and South trilogy had hardly any battle scenes and although it had some great acting perofrmances, there was too much sex and romance. I had waited a long time for Gods and Generals and was very disapointed with its outcome. I like long movies but this was too long for a movie theatre. Totalling over four hours in length, it still left out a lot of information. Ronald Maxwell still insists that the full 6 hour version will be released in the next few years.
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Post by neferetus on Jan 7, 2007 20:07:44 GMT -5
HORSE SOLDIERS (1959) with John Wayne and William Holden, about a Union cavalry raid deep in Confederate territory.
"I've had it with you, Section Hand, strip your blouse!"
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Post by Bromhead24 on Jan 7, 2007 20:17:07 GMT -5
HORSE SOLDIERS (1959) with John Wayne and William Holden, about a Union cavalry raid deep in Confederate territory. "I've had it with you, Section Hand, strip your blouse!" "Lets go croaker"!!
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Post by alamoal on Mar 9, 2007 12:27:37 GMT -5
I grew up with the screen writer, director, and producer of Gettysburg & Gods and Generals, Ronald Maxwell, in Clifton NJ. Ron was also an equipment manager on our championship football team, and also in my scout troop. He lived by the famous, at least in NJ, Rutt's Hutt, hot dog joint in the section called Delawanna, which is where I'm from too. Haven't seen him since he graduated in 1964 (I was class of 65). I wish I could contact him and ask if my son Nick, who is an amateur filmaker, if he could get a small part, not even speaking, in the last part of the trilogy. My kids and wife, are direct decendents of a Maurice McGrath, who enlisted in the 1st NJ reg. (3 years), June 1861, and was one of the original soldiers in the Army of the Potomac. Maurice was discharged as disabled, in February 1863. He was in all of the AoP engagements up until that time. He served under General Sedgwick, 6th Corps, whose statue stands on the plain at West Point. Funny, most of my wife's family has little interest in the piece of history of their family, including my brother-in-law who is a WP grad. I made it a point that my kids are better informed than they are. By what I can gather from his discharge papers, Maurice may have been 'recruited' shortly after getting off the boat from Ireland. I also believe that it was Maurice's company who successfully held back the Conferate infantry while they were acting as the rear guard protecting the retreat of the Union forces after they were 'dispatched' from the battle of 1st Manasses.
My son Nick is planning to be a US History Major in college this coming fall. One of his top selections is Randolph Macon in VA, close to Richmond. I couldn't think of a better place for a US History major.
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Post by Greg C. on Mar 9, 2007 21:53:04 GMT -5
you are from new jersey then?
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Post by alamoal on Mar 12, 2007 7:09:04 GMT -5
I be!
Do I know Bill C, Mike B, and Tom F ? I do. However, I haven't seen Tom for a few years, since he moved to PA.
I used to work a coupla miles from where Bill C. lived (East Hanover), and would occassionally stop by. He too has moved.
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Post by wisconsinalamobuff on Apr 28, 2007 12:36:00 GMT -5
gettysburg was terrific, so i'd have to say that it is my favorite. gods an generals had too much dialogue and north and south had way too much sex.
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Post by Bromhead24 on Apr 28, 2007 13:34:01 GMT -5
Gettysburg is a great film but it could have been better. Since it originally made as a TNT minie series, it wastoo sanitized (no blood or gore) The directors cut explains alot better things that happened...oh the guy who did the beards, he should have been fired...I know a few reenactors who where there during the filming and that called the movie "gettysbeard" because of the horrible beards...lol
I loved the film BTW
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Post by Greg C. on Apr 28, 2007 13:45:39 GMT -5
Gettysburg is a great film but it could have been better. Since it originally made as a TNT minie series, it wastoo sanitized (no blood or gore) The directors cut explains alot better things that happened...oh the guy who did the beards, he should have been fired...I know a few reenactors who where there during the filming and that called the movie "gettysbeard" because of the horrible beards...lol I loved the film BTW yeah, how about berenger's beard? he could have been in a hurricane and the hair would not have moved.
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Post by RebAl on Apr 29, 2007 1:59:54 GMT -5
I had to vote for Gods and Generals the music score was excellent and there were some really memorable scenes such as the fight to take the Stone Wall at Fredricksburg, the Confederates advancing out of the trees at Chancellorsville and the most moving was the return of Jackson's body to Lexington.
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Post by alamojohnuk on Apr 29, 2007 6:50:57 GMT -5
I thought that "Glory" starring Denzil Washington, was a superb film, lots of emotion and fantastic battle scenes, don't know for sure how historically accurate it was though, but from what little I've read on the subject it seems pretty close.
John
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Post by Rick on Apr 29, 2007 16:39:57 GMT -5
Hard to pick a favorite, but I put Gettysburg, Gods and Generals and Glory (a lotta G's, for some reason) right up there together. Always thought two Disney flicks: Johnny Shiloh and The Great Locomotive Chase, were good CW yarns told well.
I hope Ron Maxwell does release an extended DC of G & G, though I doubt The Last Full Measure ever makes it to the screen.
A pity.
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Post by Greg C. on Apr 29, 2007 18:11:16 GMT -5
Hard to pick a favorite, but I put Gettysburg, Gods and Generals and Glory (a lotta G's, for some reason) right up there together. Always thought two Disney flicks: Johnny Shiloh and The Great Locomotive Chase, were good CW yarns told well. I hope Ron Maxwell does release an extended DC of G & G, though I doubt The Last Full Measure ever makes it to the screen. A pity. i forgot about the great locamotive chase which was also very entertaining starring fess parker.
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Post by Greg C. on Jul 13, 2007 20:41:54 GMT -5
Just popped in Gods and generals today after not watching it for a while. I used to love this movie and watched it alot but now, I realize what a bad movie this is. The music is great, don't get me wrong but the acting and direction is light years behind Maxwell's masterpiece in gettysburg. When I was younger and read the reviews this movie got, I couldnt understand why they hated it. Now I can. The acting is wooden with no emotion and long drawn out speeches about religion and service towards virginia. The battle scenes are also weak and they use the same shot of an advancing union column no less then four times for the battle of Bull Run. anyone else feel this way?
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Post by TexasMacatWork on Nov 29, 2007 13:30:50 GMT -5
I'm going with Gods & Gens b/c the costuming, casting, and even the stilted dialogue was better. But, that's not to say that I didn't like Gettysburg. It was excellent, too.
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Post by Greg C. on Nov 29, 2007 15:07:15 GMT -5
Maybe the Director's Cut of G & G (which I eagerly await) will change my opinion of the film. I went from "Love it" to "Hate it" in about two viewings...
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Post by Rick on Jan 30, 2011 15:40:31 GMT -5
Maybe the Director's Cut of G & G (which I eagerly await) will change my opinion of the film. I went from "Love it" to "Hate it" in about two viewings... Greg, I read your interview with Brian Mallon. Very interesting and well done. Thanks also for the heads-up on the upcoming release of Maxwell's DC version of Gods and Generals.
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Post by Greg C. on Feb 2, 2011 15:07:55 GMT -5
Maybe the Director's Cut of G & G (which I eagerly await) will change my opinion of the film. I went from "Love it" to "Hate it" in about two viewings... Greg, I read your interview with Brian Mallon. Very interesting and well done. Thanks also for the heads-up on the upcoming release of Maxwell's DC version of Gods and Generals.Glad you liked it. My opinion of this film has changed so much over the years. It went from love, to hate, and now it's back to love again. Guess I'm old enough to truly be able to appreciate such an epic.
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Post by Rick on May 25, 2011 17:52:25 GMT -5
I've been watching my Gettysburg DVD the past day or so. I saw it on the big screen, then wore out a VHS version and now have the DVD, so I'm pretty familiar with the dialogue.
This viewing, though, I've read the subtitles, and whoever did subtitles for this DVD version committed major blunders left and right, which makes me wonder if the subtitle portions are done overseas or something.
For instance, when Chamberlain and Spear take swigs from the flask after their bayonet charge, a Yank soldier escorting prisoners stops and confesses his gun isn't loaded. Chamberlain quietly tells him, "Not so loud."
But the DVD subtitle has him saying, "That's allowed."
Huh?
Also, bits of the actual dialogue sometimes don't appear in the subtitles (probably cut out for space?), but this incorrect hearing of the actual spoken words totally sucks. And the film is riddled with them. I'm almost tempted to see if this happens in my other DVDs.
Anybody know anything about the subtitle-adding portion of the DVD-making process? Is it done here or abroad?
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Post by neferetus on Aug 7, 2012 4:42:18 GMT -5
With Bruce Boxleitner, who portrayed General Longstreet in GODS & GENERALS. Bruce is an avid Civil War buff and reenactor.
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