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Post by neferetus on Feb 21, 2007 13:36:01 GMT -5
 Frank Thompson and other Texian delegates look on in awe, as Jim Bowie (Jason Patric) throw down his knife on a table. |
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Post by wisconsinalamobuff on Apr 28, 2007 12:16:24 GMT -5
although i thought it could have been better i really liked it and look forward to the directors cut. anyone have any word?
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Post by Greg C. on Apr 28, 2007 12:45:43 GMT -5
although i thought it could have been better i really liked it and look forward to the directors cut. anyone have any word? there is no word yet on when or if the director's cut will be made. unfortunately. |
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Post by neferetus on Apr 28, 2007 17:07:33 GMT -5
Welcome Wisconsinalamobuff. In a 2006 ALAMO JOURNAL interview, John Lee Hancock stated that he is ready, willing and able to come out with a director's cut, if only Disney would back it.
I reckon that fans of the film will just have to get together and petition Disney to do just that.
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Post by Greg C. on Apr 28, 2007 17:33:52 GMT -5
Welcome Wisconsinalamobuff. In a 2006 ALAMO JOURNAL interview, John Lee Hancock stated that he is ready, willing and able to come out with a director's cut, if only Disney would back it. I reckon that fans of the film will just have to get together and petition Disney to do just that. and rich curilla told me that if JLH directs another movie for disney, it will be in his contract that the DC will be made. will you direct something mr hancock! |
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Post by seguin on May 23, 2007 21:41:17 GMT -5
When I saw the 2004 Alamo movie I noticed that when the Mexican army was breaching the palisades, it was done by a special group equipped with big axes and all of them had beards. Did the Mexican army really have such an ax group? And did they all have beards? Especially the beards puzzles me! Can anybody answer those questions for me?
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Post by neferetus on May 23, 2007 21:52:42 GMT -5
When I saw the 2004 Alamo movie I noticed that when the Mexican army was breaching the palisades, it was done by a special group equipped with big axes and all of them had beards. Did the Mexican army really have such an ax group? And did they all have beards? Especially the beards puzzles me! Can anybody answer those questions for me? According to Frank Thompson, the unit was known as 'The Pioneers'. They were known to have had beards and wore thick leather aprons to keep wood, stone and plaster splinters from injuring them when they were effecting a breach in the walls with theiur axes and crowbars. This was their primary purpose. (I had to laugh inwardly when I saw these pioneers at work in the new Alamo film, because, during a break in the filming of ALAMO, THE PRICE OF FREEDOM, I was asked by Kevin Young to help open the breach in the palisade by the north wall so that we soldados would have an easier time getting inside once the cameras began to roll. I used a piece of timber and even the heel of my boot to loosen the already crumbling adobe there. I sure could've used an ax, though, pioneer that I was.) |
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Post by seguin on May 25, 2007 15:47:43 GMT -5
Thanks a lot, Nef! So, both the ax group and the beards has an historic background. Good! It would have been a disappointment if it had been a figment of the producer/directors imagination. Seems like they had a good historical advisor. That´s great. I just hate when historical movies don´t pay close attention to the facts...
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Post by neferetus on May 25, 2007 18:15:48 GMT -5
Seguin, what do you think of Jordi Molla's Juan Seguin acting like he was almost ashamed of fighting the Mexican army? The real Juan Seguin lived by the power of his convictions and was no wavering sentimentalist. He was a firebrand and probably had a lot more in common with the historical William Barret Travis who was also a firebrand and member of the War Party. Both were itching to get the revolution going when most other Texians only wanted to wait things out.
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Post by Greg C. on May 25, 2007 21:08:12 GMT -5
I personally thought Molla could have done a lot better even if his part was very small. Maybe his performance is better in the director's cut which we will probably never get to see...
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Post by seguin on May 31, 2007 18:04:47 GMT -5
Seguin, what do you think of Jordi Molla's Juan Seguin acting like he was almost ashamed of fighting the Mexican army? The real Juan Seguin lived by the power of his convictions and was no wavering sentimentalist. He was a firebrand and probably had a lot more in common with the historical William Barret Travis who was also a firebrand and member of the War Party. Both were itching to get the revolution going when most other Texians only wanted to wait things out. Ahh, Nef. I just noticed this post of yours! I must have missed it before.. I agee with you. Seguin was a firebrand and Jordi Molla´s portrayal of him did´nt live up to my expectations. He came across as a timid and weak character in many scenes. Like a guy who just happend to be there. Molla has been praised for this portrayal on several movie sites. I still wonder why. Well, at least Seguin was depicted in the movie and in many scenes too. That has not always been the case in former Alamo movies, I believe. They also depicted him but not as much as in Alamo (2004). It was about time too... |
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Post by Richard L Curilla on Sept 26, 2007 12:22:14 GMT -5
I felt the Molla's performance was totally in keeping with the script and the character subtext provided by John Lee. In addition, I felt that this character subtext was definitely in proportion to the mood of Juan Nepomuceno Seguin's written memoirs.
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Post by Greg C. on Sept 26, 2007 13:53:37 GMT -5
I felt the Molla's performance was totally in keeping with the script and the character subtext provided by John Lee. In addition, I felt that this character subtext was definitely in proportion to the mood of Juan Nepomuceno Seguin's written memoirs. Welcome Mr. Currilla! Glad to see you stopped by. You should register and tell us more of what you think... Do you remember me when I visited Wayneamo in April? |
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Post by Cole_blooded on Sept 26, 2007 18:57:28 GMT -5
Glad you paid a visit here Rich, davycrockett is building up the garrison, 99 members so far!  TED COLE....aka....Cole_blooded ;D |
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Post by neferetus on Sept 27, 2007 12:35:37 GMT -5
I really hope that someday, all of the cut scenes from THE ALAMO (2004) will finally be restored. Cutting Bonham out altogether, for the sake of time constraints just doesn't make sense. Bonham's ride is/was a crucial and integral element of the Alamo story.
It would be like doing a movie about the Beatles and then deciding to cut Ringo out, due to time constraints. The picture is going to suffer.
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Post by bucko1 on Sept 27, 2007 18:27:28 GMT -5
I thought Molla's part was excellent. I am prejudiced I know, being an unabashed Juan Seguin fan (my recent hopefully to be soon published manuscript features him as one of the heroes). One can pardon Seguin's "timidity" in the film, simply because, as in real life, he did not know who he could trust and no matte what move he made, it had dire consequences for him and his family. One can only hope a DC restores his edited scenes.
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Post by seguin on Sept 27, 2007 19:53:04 GMT -5
Were there edited or deleted scenes with Seguin?
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Post by bucko1 on Sept 29, 2007 2:44:41 GMT -5
According to Frank Thompson, Seguin was much more prominently featured in the film, but Hancock had to edit most of it out due to time constraints. I would love to see these scenes if in fact, they do exist. I believe it would make the film a much better one, although I think it is one of the best already. By the way, Patrick Wilson's (Travis) career, appears to be really taking off.
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Post by Greg C. on Sept 29, 2007 8:30:40 GMT -5
I just wanted to see West Studi in this movie. He wouldnt have played a great cherokee chief.
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Post by neferetus on Nov 3, 2007 14:19:01 GMT -5
 Set designer Michael Corenblith's model of the Dripping Springs set. (sans rooftops.) |
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