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Post by neferetus on Jan 18, 2007 14:14:27 GMT -5
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Post by neferetus on Jan 18, 2007 14:16:39 GMT -5
By the way, that's Charlie Morfin, Jerry Laing "Little" Charlie Morfin---in front--- Mike Waters and Jack Edmondson.
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Post by neferetus on Jan 18, 2007 14:20:51 GMT -5
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Post by neferetus on Jan 18, 2007 14:21:28 GMT -5
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Post by neferetus on Jan 18, 2007 14:23:23 GMT -5
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Post by Bromhead24 on Jan 19, 2007 0:00:19 GMT -5
Nice shots
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Post by neferetus on Feb 13, 2007 19:28:42 GMT -5
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Post by Greg C. on Feb 14, 2007 8:25:12 GMT -5
very nice up-close shots!
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Post by Bromhead24 on Feb 14, 2007 8:54:21 GMT -5
Memories
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Post by neferetus on Feb 14, 2007 14:07:13 GMT -5
In the cut scene, Travis is seen down in the street asking the departing citizens 'where are you going?' Then, the sentry in the San Fernando Church tower sees something and begans clanging the bell. 'Boy, what is it boy?!' Travis asks, after running up the tower stairs. 'I seen 'em!' the excited sentry blurts, pointing towards the dense underbrush in the distance. 'I think I did.'
Travis shouts down to Jown W. Smith and Dr, John Sutherland, who sit, horseback. "Doc, you and Smith ride out and scout the Medina. Boy here says he saw the army. Sutherland and Smith ride off, see 'the army' and then head back, lickity-split. Then all hell breaks loose as the defenders scramble about for provisions. Travis tells Juan Seguin to round up some beeves. The Texians move across the San Antonio River on the Potrero Street footbridge, while Crockett and his men form a rear guard. ' We've got all we can,' Crockett assures Travis, as the last of the defenders and non-combatant civilians head in through the Alamo's main gate.
It's too bad that this scene was cut. Not only was it rather well done, but it expressed the frantic urgency the Texians must've experienced, upon being surprized by the unexpected arrival of Santa Anna. Now, when you see the film, the Texians are already inside the Alamo watching the Mexican army file into town. They seem calm, yet almost excited about the prospect.
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Post by Rick on Feb 14, 2007 17:09:14 GMT -5
In the cut scene, Travis is seen down in the street asking the departing citizens 'where are you going?' Then, the sentry in the San Fernando Church tower sees something and begans clanging the bell. 'Boy, what is it boy?!' Travis asks, after running up the tower stairs. 'I seen 'em!' the excited sentry blurts, pointing towards the dense underbrush in the distance. 'I think I did.' Travis shouts down to Jown W. Smith and Dr, John Sutherland, who sit, horseback. "Doc, you and Smith ride out and scout the Medina. Boy here says he saw the army. Sutherland and Smith ride off, see 'the army' and then head back, lickity-split. Then all hell breaks loose as the defenders scramble about for provisions. Travis tells Juan Seguin to round up some beeves. The Texians move across the San Antonio River on the Potrero Street footbridge, while Crockett and his men form a rear guard. ' We've got all we can,' Crockett assures Travis, as the last of the defenders and non-combatant civilians head in through the Alamo's main gate. It's too bad that this scene was cut. Not only was it rather well done, but it expressed the frantic urgency the Texians must've experienced, upon being surprized by the unexpected arrival of Santa Anna. Now, when you see the film, the Texians are already inside the Alamo watching the Mexican army file into town. They seem calm, yet almost excited about the prospect. Was the cut footage preserved? Ned, I've really been admiring the photos you've posted from the production of POF. Were you allowed to pretty much take photos whenever and of whatever you pleased (I guess as long as it didn't interfere with filming)? How many rolls of film did you shoot during that production?
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Post by neferetus on Feb 14, 2007 18:22:07 GMT -5
There was no restriction to photo taking on POF. I took enough BEHIND THE SCENES photos to fill a 300 photo album. The action scenes were snapped by another reenactor named Lee Basora who ended up taking orders for copies right on the set.
I of course also exchanged as many photos as I could with fellow reenactors Jerry Laing, Craig Covner and Larry Grimsley. Glad that you enjoy them, Rick.
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Post by neferetus on Feb 14, 2007 18:25:40 GMT -5
Oh and I don't know if the cut footage was/is being preserved. While the original "Director's Cut' print ran something like 72 minutes, the Rivercenter IMAX Theater currently shows only the edited 45 minute version.
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Post by Greg C. on Apr 13, 2007 15:07:30 GMT -5
I can't believe that i havent posted about this yet. when i was in san antonio i got to see the critically acclaimed "Alamo:The Price of Freedom". it was very well shot and Merril Connally's crockett was one of the best crocketts i have ever seen. casey bigg's performance was also good. bowie, on the other hand i thought could have been a lot better. the final battle sequence was also very good and the lack of background music made in more realistic rather then dramatic. the next day i went to the wayneamo, where i saw where the movie was filmed.
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Post by neferetus on Apr 18, 2007 13:09:57 GMT -5
Nitpicking POF: One of the things that I did not care for, nor agree with was the defenders constantly cheering at the drop of a hat. Compare Travis' entrance into Bejar in THE ALAMO (2004) to POF. In POF, the defenders cheer and actually fire off a cannon in Travis' honor, whereas in the 2004 film, they look upon him with disdain. Then there's the scene where Bowie relinquishes his command. Instead of being shaken by the loss of this living legend in their ranks, the defenders inexplicably cheer. Lastly, when Travis tell the men there is no hope and that they are all going to die grisly deaths, they cheer and throw their hats in the air as though they had just won the lottery.
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Post by Greg C. on Apr 18, 2007 13:46:31 GMT -5
that was one thing that was annoying. another thing was, when travis drew the line, the defenders were so quick to cross that they nearly knocked travis over. in my book, they wait a few minutes and actually think about what theyre doing.
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Post by neferetus on Apr 18, 2007 14:06:37 GMT -5
True, Greg. Even in the WAYNAMO, Wayne, as Crockett hangs back for a few moments of indecision and reflection.
Also, every Alamo film seems to require a 'Smitty' character. LAST COMMAND had Jeb, THE WAYNAMO had Smitty, 13 DAYS TO GLORY had Danny Cloud, PRICE OF FREEDOM had Jim Allen and THE ALAMO (2004) had that kid who dies in the unfinished well. In my opinion, were every visual reference to Jim Allen deleted from POF, the film would not suffer in the least. (And would perhaps allow for a longer version of the final battle, to boot.)
Speaking of a scene with young Jim Allen, do you recall the one where he and Travis are standing by the palisade and Allen remarks how the music frightens him more than the cannon fire? Well, at the end of the scene, as Allen is walking away, Travis lifts his coffee cup to his lips to take a sip and practically bites the edge off of it as the palisade cannon booms. I was told later that this was no accident. The gun crew deliberately double-charged the cannon to get just such a reaction from Casey Biggs. I wonder why the scene was not reshot? Cost of IMAX film, I reckon.
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Post by Greg C. on Apr 18, 2007 17:48:34 GMT -5
i do remember that scene. the character of jim allen was so unnescessary. there is no such smitty in my book.
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Post by neferetus on Apr 26, 2007 12:30:31 GMT -5
ALAMO, THE PRICE OF FREEDOM has the distinction of having three film Jim Bowie's on the set at the same time. Mike Waters (ALAMO, THE NEW DEFENDERS) Jack Edmondson ( in HISTORY CHANNEL documentaries) and, of course, POF's own Steve Sandor.
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Post by neferetus on Apr 27, 2007 13:16:05 GMT -5
A clearer image of the ALAMO, THE PRICE OF FREEDOM cast photo.
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