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Post by Greg C. on Nov 20, 2007 20:04:50 GMT -5
Its important to know where the defenders came from, and who knows, there may be one from your area!
Defender Geographical Breakdown (Percents are approx.) Total Known Participants: 194
Tennessee: 31 (16%) Kentucky: 18 (9%) Unknown/Newly discovered: 17 (9%) Pennsylvania: 14 (7%) Texas: 12 (6%) Virginia: 11 (6%) Ireland: 9 (5%) North Carolina: 7 (4%) South Carolina: 7 (4%) Georgia: 6 (3%) Missouri: 6 (3%) New York: 6 (3%) Mississippi: 5 (2.5%) Alabama: 4 (2%) Louisiana: 4 (2%) Massachusetts: 4 (2%) Ohio: 4 (2%) Scotland: 4 (2%) Arkansas: 3 (1.5%) Germany: 2 (1%) Connecticut: 1 (.5%) Denmark: 1 (.5%) Illinois: 1 (.5%) Maryland: 1 (.5%) New Hampshire: 1 (.5%) New Jersey: 1 (.5%) Rhode Island: 1 (.5%) Vermont: 1 (.5%) Wales: 1 (.5%)
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Post by The Exile on Feb 19, 2008 15:53:57 GMT -5
Davy - I was always led to believe that there were between 10 to 15 Englishmen inside the Alamo, yet no mention of this in the Geographical Breakdown ..... any reason?
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Post by neferetus on Feb 19, 2008 16:21:20 GMT -5
Davy - I was always led to believe that there were between 10 to 15 Englishmen inside the Alamo, yet no mention of this in the Geographical Breakdown ..... any reason? Oops! How could anyone forget England? The latest number of names on the DRT's Alamo defenders roster is 189. The above breakdown only accounts for 178. The DRT roster does however include 11, (or 12) Englishmen, which would make up for the discrepancy. The English Defenders: William Blazeby Daniel Bourne George Brown Stephen Dennison (England, or Ireland) James R. Dimkins James C. Gwynne William Daniel Hersee James Nowlan Marcus L. Sewell Richard Starr James E. Stewart Thomas Waters
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Post by The Exile on Feb 19, 2008 16:58:24 GMT -5
Thanks for clearing that up Neferetus, I wondered where they had gotten to. The reason for asking is that many (many) years ago when I was at school, we had to write about an event in history, having just seen the John Wayne Alamo movie at the local cinema, I wrote about that - no need to read a book, just describe the movie. My Grandmother had told me that 'family stories' said that one of our relations had fought at the Alamo and she had seen a letter when she was younger, written a while after the event by someone (no idea who), to one of his relations here in England. I remember her saying that this person had gone to the Alamo and had been shown the area in a peach orchard where the bodies had been buried after they were cremated. They wrote that they had said a prayer at the site. I remember thinking (as a young boy) how could there be an orchard in Texas, as it was all desert!!!. (Hey, I was about 8 - what did I know). Anyway, just came across this site when surfing - very interesting, the people on here certainly know their stuff. Thanks for not forgetting the English.
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Post by Greg C. on Feb 19, 2008 19:36:39 GMT -5
Hey Exile, why don't you join the forum? We could sure use another poster who's ready. willing, and able...
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Post by neferetus on Feb 19, 2008 20:02:40 GMT -5
Hey Exile, why don't you join the forum? We could sure use another poster who's ready. willing, and able... Yes indeed. And, by the way, is your ancestor's name on the above list? Interesting story about the letter and the peach orchard. One of the funeral pyres was indeed supposed to have been located in just such an orchard, to the NE of the mission. The historical worth of such a letter should not be minimized.
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Post by The Exile on Feb 20, 2008 8:16:03 GMT -5
Neferetus I'm affraid I can't add much to what I have already said. My surname is Brown and there is a Brown on the list as being one of the English defenders. My grandmother was a great one for 'oral history' of the family. She would love to tell stories about people from previous generations etc., that she in turn had been told by older family members. As previously mentioned, I said that I had been to see the Alamo movie, and she told me that one of our ancestors had been there. Of course I imagined him as standing next to John Wayne swinging away with his rifle, but all she could say was that when she was younger, she was sorting out some old letters and correspondence and one of them was a letter from someone (she couldn't remember who), to someone in the family (again, she couldn't remember who) saying about visiting the site of the battle and visiting a peach orchard where this person had been buried (cremated?). She said she always remembered this, as she couldn't think of anywhere nicer than being buried than in a peach orchard, thats why it stuck in her memory. I have no idea where the letter would be now, even if it still exists or has been thrown away, (or even if she was spinning her wide eyed grandson a yarn - but I hope not.) I did keep mentioning it to her quite a few times over the years, but she never added anything else. Daveycrockett, thanks for the invite, but I don't think I could add anything to this forum, the knowledge of the people on here far outweighs anything I could contribute - I will however 'save' this site and keep popping back from time to time to keep up to date with all the latest discussions. Cheerio.
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Post by Greg C. on Feb 20, 2008 15:10:08 GMT -5
Daveycrockett, thanks for the invite, but I don't think I could add anything to this forum, the knowledge of the people on here far outweighs anything I could contribute - I will however 'save' this site and keep popping back from time to time to keep up to date with all the latest discussions. Cheerio. Nonsense! We're not experts here, we're simple folks like you who have the interest in the Alamo and American History. We'd love to have you aboard!
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Post by neferetus on Feb 20, 2008 18:29:18 GMT -5
80 percent of the members here do not post a thing. So, whatever you post will be 100 percent better than their contributions.
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Post by Greg C. on Feb 20, 2008 18:33:46 GMT -5
80 percent of the members here do not post a thing. So, whatever you post will be 100 percent better than their contributions. Sad, but true.
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Wayne Devon England
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Post by Wayne Devon England on Feb 23, 2012 7:07:53 GMT -5
Hello I was recently very surprised to discover that a number of my people fell at the Alamo. I have been led to believe that at least twelve confirmed Englishmen gave their lives. In addition I also understand that there is no known place of birth for a significant number of those lost and that a significant proportion of these men also bore English surnames. Can anyone tell me whether there exists a memorial commemorating their sacrifice. I would be very grateful if anyone has any information on this topic. With thanks Wayne
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