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Post by Greg C. on May 11, 2005 18:02:40 GMT -5
i heard on the alamo film site that santa anna was possibly on opium or something like that. do you think that the opium affected his decisions in command?
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Post by Cole_blooded on May 12, 2005 12:47:32 GMT -5
Santa Anna was already an ass so Opium would have just magnified that!  Concerning decisions made while being an ass and on Opium,who knows,but!........... TED....aka....cole_blooded  |
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Post by MrLouisiana on May 12, 2005 20:44:08 GMT -5
Of course he was on drugs, he was Mexican. ;D
In all seriousness and ethnic jokes aside, it is entirely possible, but I don't think he would have done it close to battles.
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Post by Greg C. on May 15, 2005 10:39:21 GMT -5
Of course he was on drugs, he was Mexican. ;D In all seriousness and ethnic jokes aside, it is entirely possible, but I don't think he would have done it close to battles. he did do it close to battles...he did it at the siege of the alamo! |
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Post by Bromhead24 on Jun 21, 2005 20:01:27 GMT -5
[ but I don't think he would have done it close to battles.[/quote]
Quite possible but, i can name several famous Generals who were either drunk "during" battle or "Stoned" during Battle during the Mexican war and the Civil War.
Gen Joseph Hooker....Drunk during the battle of Antietam.
Gen USS Grant...said to be drunk at the battle of the Wilderness.
Gen Ambrose...Drunk at the battle of Antietam
So it is possible that Santa Anna was under the influence but then again, maybe not...something to think about
Mike
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Post by Wade Alamo Sentry on Oct 29, 2005 11:30:06 GMT -5
I laughed when I read the title. "Santa Anna on Drugs."
Just say no!
~Wade
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Post by neferetus on Jan 19, 2006 17:25:46 GMT -5
 Antonio Lopez Cheech Marin de Santa Anna |
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Post by neferetus on Jan 25, 2006 11:23:54 GMT -5
When Santa Anna was being returned to Mexico in 1837, in order that he might fulfil his promises of a free Texas, he boarded the ship INVICIBLE in Velasco, bound for Vera Cruz. When the citizens of that town realized that Santa Anna was on board however, an angry mob appeared at the docks and threatened to drown him. An order was made by Thomas Green, a leader of some volunteers from New Orleans, who had only just arrived on another ship that Santa Anna should be sent ashore for his own protection.
Frank C. Hanighen, in his 1934 book, Santa Anna: The Napoleon of the West relates what followed:
Our hero, agitated by the delay in the sailing, was greatly upset by this message and refused to move saying melodramatically that he would never leave the vessel alive. An almost feminine hysteria seized him now and when Green with some others went on board to get him, they found him lying in bed, crying,
"Mercy! Mercy! Oh God! If they wish to kill me let them come and shoot me here. Don't let them take me on shore." An officer on the ship wrote, "Santa Anna is the greatest coward ever produced. He referred constantly to the 'new army' which was going to kill him and said he would commit suicide."
No amount of explanation could persuade him that he would be safe ashore. He rushed around and took some opium---more opium, he said---he had taken so much, he averred, that he would soon die anyway. Almonte who stood out in serene and tranquil contrast, was asked to add his powers of influence to get the raving General to leave the ship. But Almonte who knew his Santa Anna, replied that it was impossible to advise him, that he was obsessed by this idea of execution, and diplomatic as ever in smoothing over his superior's scrapes, suggested that they wait a bit. But the resolute Green had to be shown. He had a surgeon examine the General's pulse and had the satisfaction of hearing it pronounced normal. Then he tried his own remedy. He ordered irons to be brought and when the formidable chains appeared, his prescription worked. For the sick man jumped up readily from his bed, adjusted his collar, put on his hat and announced that he would leave the ship.
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